[Laszlo-dev] Persistent Connections

[Fernando Germano]

Ok, thanks, I'll try that too.

Best Regards,


On 4/25/06, Mo <mail at mo.virtual-bunker.de> wrote:
>
> hoi,
>
> just call the actionscript in a method. it's that simple.
>
> you might want to look at this page for a description of the xmlsocket
> object:
>
> http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/action_scripts/actionscript_dictionary/actionscript_dictionary860.html
>
> but be warned: it's not the "official openlaszlo way" to call
> actionscript directly. but they said, they might come up with a socket
> api too some time. i therefore keep all my socket stuff encapsulated in
> an lzx class so i have no big trouble changing it later.
>
> have fun :-)
>
> greetings
> - mo
>
> Fernando Germano wrote:
>
> >This is a very good idea..., but, how do I use the xmlsocket facilities
> >from OpenLaszlo?
> >
> >Thanks you for your advice,
> >
> >
> >On 4/25/06, Mo <mail at mo.virtual-bunker.de> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>hoi,
> >>
> >>you might want to try out MINA, a java framework for network
> >>applications, which is capable of supporting more than 10000 user
> >>connections per server. combined with the xmlsocket facilities of the
> >>flash player it might be exactly what you're looking for.
> >>
> >>greetings
> >>- mo
> >>
> >>Fernando Germano wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>So, the conclussion about "Persistant Connections" is that they are
> good
> >>>
> >>>
> >>but
> >>
> >>
> >>>there is no hardware capable of support a massive site, am I right?
> >>>I'll be very interesting to see what's the max quantity of users a
> simple
> >>>server could handle (like the one that every hosting company has).
> >>>
> >>>And, if it is not practical to implement this mechanism, what would be
> >>>
> >>>
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>>alternative?, maybe WebServices with some DB backend?
> >>>
> >>>On 4/24/06, Raju Bitter <rajubitter at web.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hi Adam,
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks for the response. Had a discussion on OpenBC.com (European
> >>>>bussiness
> >>>>network) in the last few days. A company asked me why they should use
> >>>>OpenLaszlo if Flex licenses where so cheap. Well, a few posting and a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>few
> >>
> >>
> >>>>days later I could convince them to consider switching from Flex to
> >>>>OpenLaszlo. The question which came up there was if OpenLaszlo
> supported
> >>>>server-side pushing of data. So I checked the documentation and the
> >>>>mailing
> >>>>list. Actually the information in the documentation doesn't really
> >>>>encourage
> >>>>developers to use that feature. Your reply made the whole thing a lot
> >>>>clearer. Thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>>Besides that some prasing: The company using flex said they checked
> >>>>OpenLaszlo a year ago. I told them how cool OpenLaszlo is and they
> took
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>a
> >>
> >>
> >>>>2nd look. The response was incredibly good: Word's fell like "After
> >>>>rechecking OpenLaszlo now we are deeply impressed by the improvements"
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>and
> >>
> >>
> >>>>"We are about ready to uninstall Flex from our systems".
> >>>>
> >>>>If anyone is interested in following the discussion, here's the link:
> >>>>(sorry, only in German)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> https://www.openbc.com/cgi-bin/forum.fpl?op=showarticles&id=1501616&articlei
> >>
> >>
> >>>>d=1526650#1526650
> >>>>
> >>>>- Raju
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >>>>Von: adam at laszlosystems.com [mailto:adam at laszlosystems.com]
> >>>>Gesendet: Montag, 24. April 2006 17:12
> >>>>An: Raju Bitter
> >>>>Cc: OpenLaszlo development and bug reporting
> >>>>Betreff: Re: [Laszlo-dev] Persistent Connections
> >>>>
> >>>>We have had customers deploy applications using this feature. In these
> >>>>cases
> >>>>they used some pretty serious hardware and planned to never have more
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>than
> >>
> >>
> >>>>40 or 50 users online concurrently. The feature does work ok in
> >>>>production;
> >>>>the problem is that it scales horrendously.
> >>>>
> >>>>If you aren't stuck with port 80, then an alternative is to use the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>Flash
> >>
> >>
> >>>>XML Socket (which actually also supports plain text transmission.)
> This
> >>>>isn't officially supported within Laszlo right now, but it's likely to
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>be
> >>
> >>
> >>>>in
> >>>>a future release.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flash/mx2004/main_7_2/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/h
> >>
> >>
> >>>>tml/wwhelp.htm?context=Flash_MX_2004&file=00001089.html#wp71517
> >>>>
> >>>>A
> >>>>
> >>>>
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